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Post by rutianrutian on Feb 26, 2014 16:38:57 GMT
What's your take on the one-state or two-state solution? Do you think it's capable of successfully resolving the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians and restoring peace that has remained elusive for such a long time?
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Post by ycboy on Feb 28, 2014 3:15:35 GMT
c'mon guys have some popcorn and develop patience!!!! wait another 1000 years and maybe then if lady luck is shining down on us, the issue will be resolved!!!
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Post by rutianrutian on Feb 28, 2014 4:07:13 GMT
c'mon guys have some popcorn and develop patience!!!! wait another 1000 years and maybe then if lady luck is shining down on us, the issue will be resolved!!! You sound skeptical.. um.. I can't speak for you but I believe that peace is not only possible, it is inevitable at some point in time because it is the only way out. It will create security for both nations and its people in the very face of rising religious fanaticism and nationalism, putting an end to the climbing death toll that both Israelis and Palestinians know they will have to pay if peace continues to be undermined. |
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Post by nutsville on Feb 28, 2014 10:10:34 GMT
What's your take on the one-state or two-state solution? Do you think it's capable of successfully resolving the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians and restoring peace that has remained elusive for such a long time? Islam is the world's conflict. Period. On top of treating Jews and Christians as aliens in their homelands, it has also brought with it hate, ignorance and jihad/perpetual wars, murders, enslavement of pagans and the list goes on... The Arabs (Palestinians included) have rejected coexistence with Israel because they have been taught by the Koran to hate and even murder Jews. Israel has nothing to apologize for since the sole alternative she has is to defend herself against Islamic hate and their lust to murder. |
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Post by ycboy on Feb 28, 2014 11:04:04 GMT
ok now that i've gotten myself an account, back to the topic -
history and current events bare witness to that fact that conflicts exist wherever predominant Muslim states adjoin non-Islamic entities and this is certainly no different in the case of the Israeli-Palestinian struggle. Israel has repeatedly put her warm face to Palestine's cold backside yet despite the many gestures of peace made by the former, none have been met with reciprocation by the Palestinian authorities.
though unlikely, i believe that an Islamic Reformation is what it takes to end the crisis. such a movement would entail a renouncement of the political, imperialist dogma which up to this point has characterized Islam from the outset. it would also require purging the hectoring and codified hatred of Jews and others so abundant within Islamic scriptures. additionally, Muslims would have to renounce the messianic, forced proselytization and conversion of those who do not wish to convert to Islam. anything short of this guarantees conflict not only between Israel and the Palestine but also between Islam and nations and individuals throughout the world that wish to maintain their own customs and way of life.
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Post by newbie18 on Mar 10, 2014 15:42:09 GMT
I think a two states solution would be the best option. This is because Israel and Palestine are quite distinct in terms of culture. Hence, best solution would be to have two states born out of peace. Peace can be achieved but it has to come from the youth who need to realise that they are being manipulated by their leaders so that they can stay in power. The youth need to see the effects of war on both sides and how both states have been equally affected.
You cannot just blame everything on Islam. It may have its deficiencies but that does not mean that it forces people to be barbaric. Just like any religion, it has its own fundamentalists who have interpreted the holy book in the wrong way. There are peaceful islamic countries like Turkey. Therefore, I believe that a two state solution is possible but with only possible scenario where youth realise the importance of peace.
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Post by Foopee on Mar 10, 2014 17:09:48 GMT
Hi,
I would think that blaming religion in this case Islam is an extremely bigoted view.
Jews have been co-existing side by side and both religions share the same prophet of Moses.
As Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Islam share a lot of common history.
The idea of Jihad here is no different from the the idea of Christian Crusades.
Religion is being used to unite people of different tribes and groups under the same banner to fight for a common cause.
The idea of Jihad has been misinterpreted and manipulated to suggest the more simple minded people that they are being persecuted and targeted.
To suggest that religion is a cause of conflict is a simple minded peasant approach which thoroughly lacks critical thinking.
There is always more than meets the eye for such issues.
We have to take into account geopolitics, power plays and sovereign interests.
On whether the proposed solutions to bring long-awaited peace will be successful I would say that we can always look at history as a lesson to teach us human nature.
For thousands of years we have seen this conflict and persecution of Jews in Jerusalem or Israel by Egyptians, Christians and even Muslims.
This will continue to repeat itself in a vicious cycle with periods of intense conflict and uneasy peace.
I would argue that there will never be eternal peace, at the end of the day war atrocities and vengeance will always drive this region back into conflict as each group seeks to pay back their rivals for what they have done.
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